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  Are you angry for having been a JW?

  by Half banana in

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  i remember seeing the ex-jws parading around outside the assembly like lepers holding placards of hate.

  we were the righteous and enlightened ones... and they were lost in outer darkness.

  just dont look at them was the standard response to their unwelcome presence..

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  Half banana

  So the answer is mainly yes we have anger towards the Watchtower org...can we put it to use. I wonder?

  Phizzy, regrets; most certainly but the anger is towards the smug self-righteousness of the GB. The lack of care for those sexually abused is symptomatic of the ethos of the whole organisation. It exists for the furtherance of its leadership and nothing else. They foster a culture of dependency based on the edicts of the GB as if they come from God's own mouth... but in practice there is a systematic emotional abuse of all its subordinate members.

  Not surprising that some of the emotionally abused go on to do similar abusive things to others.
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  Are you angry for having been a JW?

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i remember seeing the ex-jws parading around outside the assembly like lepers holding placards of hate.

  we were the righteous and enlightened ones... and they were lost in outer darkness.

  just dont look at them was the standard response to their unwelcome presence..

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  Half banana

  I remember seeing the ex-JWs parading around outside the assembly like lepers holding placards of hate. We were the righteous and enlightened ones... and they were lost in outer darkness. “Just don’t look at them” was the standard response to their unwelcome presence.
  

  But hold on a minute why should they want to disrupt the peace of a convention? Why bother taking time and effort especially when nobody takes any notice?

  No one including me stopped to think they might have a point to make! They are just so wrong we thought, and we were so right! It’s simple JW black-and-white, us-and-them thinking. Life is so simplified for a JW... it’s either the holy GB or Satan... no half measures, no subtleties to the meaning of things. You don’t even have to bother your brain to think.

  We on the other hand have used our brains and given it a good amount of thought followed up with research. I am angry for losing my family to this self righteous deluded and harmful cult but frankly, at the same I am also much happier for not being under the Watchtower spell.

  How about you, are any of you still angry? Even years later?

  Shouldn’t we show the Jdubs just how angry we are to have been deceived by the WTS?

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  
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  BBC interview about 1975 - never heard this before..

  by defender of truth in

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  for any lurkers who don't believe the watchtower taught that the world would end in 1975... rare jehovah's witnesses 1968 interview "armageddon and 1975" london watchtower rep speaks to bbc.

  http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=npmt-ml-m-g. --------.

  but where will this system of things be by that time?

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  Half banana

  Phil Reece had seemed to me to be a reasonable human being (I was young when I met him) but listening to his paranoid drivel just now indicates he was just a Watchtower zombie. Interesting though, was that not many years after the interview he was dismissed from the London Bethel for alcohol dependency. Perhaps he knew it was all baloney and sought a refuge in drink.
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  What ARE the fruits that the JW tree produces?

  by TTWSYF in

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  my brother [the elder] often refers to this line as to 'knowing a tree by it;s fruits'.

  so,my question is what are the jw fruits?.

  just asking....sincerely.

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  Half banana

  I reckon their actual fruits include delusion, the stamping on the human spirit, the suppression of self expression linked to the slave mentality required to be a JW and the inward looking indoctrination coupled with exclusion of education.
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  Could "this generation" inspire a new "1975 debacle"?

  by Island Man in

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  i think that it's possible that they're getting ready to issue a new end time date insinuation like they did with 1975. now i know what some of you are probably thinking: why would they be so stupid as to repeat such a mistake, knowing what happened in 1975?

  well here're two reasons why i think they could do it:.

  first, it's important to remember that they are deluded.

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  Half banana

  I think they are just as likely to say that the "spiritual " paradise actually arrived just after 1975 when they agreed to have a governing body. It would cover two bases; this would make use of the 1975 date and the timing of their own elevation to sainthood as demi-gods. "The paradise came invisibly!" ---(vomit bag needed)
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  the purpose of generation explanation

  by poopie in

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  ok here is my 2 cents they are getting complaints concerning the drum beat that goes we are in the last hour of last min bla bla bla and people are tired and want system to end so if the system is ended sooon then why are there new partakers assuming that most have the actually calling.

  so now we have a problem how do we fix it?

  simple just say those new annointed are not part of this generation so now if we appoint younger guys to gb not to worry there not a part of this generation.

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  Half banana

  My apologies Prologos, you were right --- you did say they only got a useful date...one which they have dined out on for a century...we agree they got the events wrong. (I wrote in a great hurry)
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  the purpose of generation explanation

  by poopie in

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  ok here is my 2 cents they are getting complaints concerning the drum beat that goes we are in the last hour of last min bla bla bla and people are tired and want system to end so if the system is ended sooon then why are there new partakers assuming that most have the actually calling.

  so now we have a problem how do we fix it?

  simple just say those new annointed are not part of this generation so now if we appoint younger guys to gb not to worry there not a part of this generation.

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  Half banana

  Prologos mentioned that they got 1914 right... sorry friend but no they did not! They got it entirely wrong. It was to be the first year of world peace! Nobody could get it more wrong. Russell was gravely disappointed at the failure in 1914 to realise his own prediction baby of the end of human rule on earth and the establishment of God’s government worldwide. Watchtower revisionist history of course sees it differently. The WTBTS have never got anything right and never made a correct prediction. They have never said anything useful apart from directing money to their own bank.

  The doctrines they guard, which are often confusing and contradictory such as the generation thing, are just to shift the focus of the flock away from thinking about the glaring lack of divine approval they demonstrate. This is what doctrines are for.
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  A ship (no matter how big) will ultimately sink if it has a hole

  by iconoclastic in

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  humanity is like a ship, and holes are our hobbies (lust, greed etc.

  which are fondly renamed as each one likes) which always have been outperforming what science could accomplish!

  most of the greater or significant scientific achievements started from 19th centurymay be with the commercial transmission of electricity!

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  Half banana

  Your reasoning is at the same stunted level as JWs is... and don't knock lust...it keeps the species going.
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  TV.JW.ORG (September 2015) - Generation explained again

  by Designer Stubble in

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  guess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.

  david spane does his best to explain it again.

  the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.

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  Half banana

  Like drowning rats all at sea, they are happy to find they have been thrown a doctrinal lifebelt now the 1914 generation ship has sunk below the waves.

  Illusions and false promises; that's all JWs need for a happy life.
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  Elder's Meeting about ARC? No. Really?

  by punkofnice in

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  as you may or may not know (or care), i live in the uk.

  a jw spy of mine told me that an elder had metioned that attendance at the kingdom hells had seemed to have dropped off after the australian royal comission expose of paedophilia within the watchtower organisation.. the elders were said to have had this as an item or the subject of a local elder's meeting.. i was surprised they'd even heard of the arc over here but at the same time was delighted.

  delighted that meeting attendance had dropped possibly....and i say possibly...as a result of the arc.. even an older dyed in the wool jw i know is getting sick of the gb worship within the organisation and had heard of the arc.. has anyone heard similar?.

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  Half banana

  Not in historical time Quincemyles, possibly 480,000 years ago there was almost a land bridge...but that is not the point. The point is that the animals in the ark fable would have all have had to return to their own land of origin and begin breeding again for the paleontological record to be uninterrupted... which is an improbability to the extreme degree!

  The Noah's ark story only makes sense as a myth.